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Foros Pesca Submarina => Pesca submarina & Apnea => Mensaje iniciado por: fabioitaliano en 06 de Julio de 2009, 12:35:29 pm
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Goodmorning,
I'm newer of this forum. Let me indroduce myself first.
I'm italian with a italina permission for spearfishing (pesca pulmon libres, I think is the right word).
The next 10th of July I'll be in MORAIRA (ALICANTE) for holydays and just for a week.
I'd like to know if I can go spearfishing using my italian permission oa I need to go somewhere ( Capitanera de Puerto, or somethng like that) shows my permission and have atemporary permission valid in Spain to practice the pesca a pulmon libre in MORAIRA.
I've called the CONSEJERIA DE PESCA in ALICANTE and they told me I'll have to do a lot of things to ask for a permission but I'll be just for a week in Spain.
So someone of you know if it is simply need to show my italian permission to someone in MORAIRA (or around) to get e temporary permission for sperfishing?
Please help me as it is urgent.
Thank you in advance.
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Hello fabio, I think you have to do lots of paper to get the licence in spain, exactly the same we have to do jeje. I don't really know if it's possible to do it in an easy way, anyway I'll ask for it. Good look and welcome.
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Thank you for your support.
Please I really appreciate any help that would come.
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If you are going to stay only one week I would take the risk and I would dive without permission. I've been doing spearfishing for more than 20 years and I've never been stoped by the police. ;)
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In the Mediterranean -out of any problematic area- you have little chance of being stopped.
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Hi All,
thank you for your suggestion.
There's an italian way of saying that sounds like this:
" If there's any lower possibility that one think happens it will happen for sure.." and I'd avoid this.
But it is really strange to ask for a temporary permission without asking for a definitive one? I can't believe it....
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Where are you going to do spearfishing?
In Galicia (the northwest) there is a temporary license for tourists.
In any case to obtain a valid license you should obtain a spanish medical certificate, pay tax and try to convince issuer that you are covered by the FIPSAS license in case of accident.
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I'm going to MORAIRA (ALICANTE).
This is was alooking for: a temporary permission for spearfishing.
I have a FIPSAS card and the assurance is convered by italian federation.
Do someone help me?
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Hello, You must call this phone number. This is the FASCV (Federation of Underwater Activities Valencia) (Castellon, Valencia and Alicante). They will help you solve your problems or opportunities for fishing in Moraira.
Good luck.
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upssss this is the telephone number:
+34 963 154 491
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I think that with your Italian paperwork and in summer you have a very good excuse in case of you encounter "carabinieri". But.
HEre i spain we have a spearfishing license and a federation card for insurance purpouses. The federation card i would try to make them accept that your CMAS card is valid here and you only need the spearfishing license. CMAS can extend (in italy and in spanish if you provide them with the correct text) a certificate you can use just to get your spearfishing license in "Capitanía del porto". We have done it in the past for some countries.
I'm going to MORAIRA (ALICANTE).
This is was alooking for: a temporary permission for spearfishing.
I have a FIPSAS card and the assurance is convered by italian federation.
Do someone help me?
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Hi Alla,
thank you very much for your interest.
I've the CMAS card as well.
So if I got properly.
When in ALICANTE I shall go to Capiteria de Peurto, shows my CMAS card and I'l get the temporary permission for sperafish. Isn't it?
P.S. Thank you for the phone number given.
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Not exactly.
1.- Go to your local FIPSAS delegate. Ask him to give you a paper that certifies that you are insured to do spearfishing in spain based in your insurance agreement the same than you are insured in Italian as owner of FIPSAS card. We have used these certificate to fish in some countries. You should obtain it free, the same than you obtain a valid car insurance certificate -the green card- from your italian car insurance company if you bring your car to spain.
2.- Use that insurance certificate to obtain "permiso de pesca" in Capitania del porto. If this certificate have the right sentences in spanish (copy it) you should have no problem at capitania.
"El poseedor de la licencia federativa FIPSAS numero XXXX, sr Fabio Antonnini, esta cubierto por un seguro de cobertura civil contra los accidentes que pudiesen suceder por la practica de la pesca submarina a pulmon libre en España".
Your best and cheap bet is that.
And you have another paper that says that you are insured in Spain if somebody checks it.
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THANK YOU!
I've requested the certificate to FIPSAS hoping they will release it in a short time.
Also I've called the FSCV and they will send my (in spanish, unfortunately, but I'll try to read it the same as it is no so different from italian) an e-mail with the explanation of the steps to be made there.
Brgds/
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THANK YOU!
I've requested the certificate to FIPSAS hoping they will release it in a short time.
Also I've called the FSCV and they will send my (in spanish, unfortunately, but I'll try to read it the same as it is no so different from italian) an e-mail with the explanation of the steps to be made there.
Brgds/
Ciao Fabio!
Il 17 di luglio scendo da quelle parti a pescare. Staró 4-5 giorni.
Se sei ancora da quelle parti possiamo organizzare una pescata assieme.
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Volentieri,
se riesco a capire come si riesce a prendere stó premesso temporaneo, volentieri!!!
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l'unico paese che riconosce la tessera fipsas italiana íƒÂ¨ la francia ( e mi pare anche la croazia): ma íƒÂ¨ comunque finalizzato alla concessione del permesso locale, nel senso che non fanno pagare extra. Le pratiche burocratiche alla locale capitaneria le devi fare lo stesso.
su AM c'íƒÂ¨ una sezione specifica che tratta questi aspetti, mi sembra.
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si ma tu come fai a pescare in Spagna?
Emmai possibile che non si possa andare in una capitaneria di porto ad Alicante ed avere un premesso temporaneo...mi sembra cosíƒÂ¬ strano!
Eppure siamo in Europa!
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si ma tu come fai a pescare in Spagna?
Emmai possibile che non si possa andare in una capitaneria di porto ad Alicante ed avere un premesso temporaneo...mi sembra cosíƒÂ¬ strano!
Eppure siamo in Europa!
mai pescato: pesco in italia e nel caribe
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Ok, perdonami l'indiscrezione ma se neanche tu hai la licenza, come peschiamo?
Boh....
Ci sono stato diue anni fa ed i pesci che ho vsito stavolta vorrei prenderli e non solo fotografarli....ho fatto il corso, ho preso brevetti pensando fossero validi anche in Spagna ed invece, sono punto e a capo...che sfortuna...
Anyway, i hope someone will help me in understanding what to do...
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Ok, perdonami l'indiscrezione ma se neanche tu hai la licenza, come peschiamo?
Boh....
Ci sono stato diue anni fa ed i pesci che ho vsito stavolta vorrei prenderli e non solo fotografarli....ho fatto il corso, ho preso brevetti pensando fossero validi anche in Spagna ed invece, sono punto e a capo...che sfortuna...
Anyway, i hope someone will help me in understanding what to do...
The official way to get the licence here in Alicante is :
- Get a medical certificate signed by a "hyperbaric medicine specialist" medic (here in Alicante = 30 í¢â€šÂ¬ )
- Go to "Conselleria de Agricultura, Pesca y Alimentación" to get the licence, with your DNI (Italian ID) ; anyway I'm not sure that you could get the licence not being spanish. Also, I don't know if there's any way to convalidate your italian licence.
- Fill some papers with your data, go to the nearest bank and pay the tax (10 í¢â€šÂ¬ ? ). Return to the "Conselleria" and get the card.
I'm fishing like 15 years here in Alicante, and only one time Police ask me about licence. If you are going from the coast (not with a boat) the probabilities to get asked about the licence are near 0%
Hereí‚´s a link (in spanish) about the requirements of the fishing licence (Licencia de pesca deportiva) with the location and phone.
http://www.buceofederado.com/doc/info/Pesca_Submarina.pdf
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Thank you for your support.
Anyway, suppose the case the license shall not be released to me 'cause italian, Shall I not spearfish at all in Spain?!
It sounds strange to me....we are European......
Anyway, thank you very much.
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Thank you for your support.
Anyway, suppose the case the license shall not be released to me 'cause italian, Shall I not spearfish at all in Spain?!
It sounds strange to me....we are European......
Anyway, thank you very much.
I mean, maybe there's another type of licence for foreigners,any type of convalidation or something like this.
As they are asking about ID os passport, I suppose that with your italian ID you can get the licence.
Anyway, I don't know if all this type of problems are worth just for one week of spearfishing !
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agreed, it's whortless.
But believe me I've called everywhere and nobody's able to answer me reliably.
True, it's a week but as stranger adn with respect to the rules , I'd avoid having problem.
Anyway, I'll be there and see.
Probably there'll be more simple than expected, who knows....
Sorry for all.
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Un'idea. Qui a Barcellona giíƒÂ íƒÂ¨ il quarto anno che io faccio il permesso di pesca presso uno dei principali negozi di pesca subacquea che gestiscono tutta la pratica. Gli porto un certificato medico officiale (non c'íƒÂ¨ bisogno che sia uno specialista in medicina iperbarica, te lo puó fare qualsiasi medico iscritto all'ordine dei medici), la fotocopia di un documento, una trentina di euro per l'assicurazione e nel giro di pochi giorni mi danno il permesso e l'assicurazione. Se trovassi un negozio ben fornito ad alicante probabilmente ti potranno gestire direttamente tutta la pratica. Gli mandi le cose per posta e per quando arrivi giíƒÂ saríƒÂ pronto. E' una cosa che io feci un paio di anni fíƒÂ per il permesso di pesca croato.
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Un'idea. Qui a Barcellona giíƒÂ íƒÂ¨ il quarto anno che io faccio il permesso di pesca presso uno dei principali negozi di pesca subacquea che gestiscono tutta la pratica. Gli porto un certificato medico officiale (non c'íƒÂ¨ bisogno che sia uno specialista in medicina iperbarica, te lo puó fare qualsiasi medico iscritto all'ordine dei medici), la fotocopia di un documento, una trentina di euro per l'assicurazione e nel giro di pochi giorni mi danno il permesso e l'assicurazione. Se trovassi un negozio ben fornito ad alicante probabilmente ti potranno gestire direttamente tutta la pratica. Gli mandi le cose per posta e per quando arrivi giíƒÂ saríƒÂ pronto. E' una cosa che io feci un paio di anni fíƒÂ per il permesso di pesca croato.
But in the Valencian Commnunity is obligatory the hyperbaric specialist medical certificate (maybe is the only community in Spain where is necessary). Probably it could be easy to get in another community.
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Uhm,
I'll be there and see.
I've the FIPSAS certificate with the coverage assurance also in Spain. i will have the passport and all the cards (CMAS, Permiso italiano de pesca submarina, FIPSAS card).
In MORAIRA (the place I'll be) I saw there was a SCUBA shop. My intention is first to go there and ask how to get a week permission in a short time. In case they won't help me , I'll go to Capiteria de Puerto and I'll ask for it...
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Thank you all.
I wonder who was the guy that have posted the sentence:
El poseedor de la licencia federativa FIPSAS numero XXXX, sr Fabio Antonnini, esta cubierto por un seguro de cobertura civil contra los accidentes que pudiesen suceder por la practica de la pesca submarina a pulmon libre en España"
Are you the Atonini I know by internet? The famous Antonini or you've just copied the sentence?
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I have write that sentence from start mixing Fabio, your name, with a know surname of a great italian spearo. It is a joke, you just put your surname instead "Antonini". Do you catch it "antonini"? ;)
Be sure you ask correct shop owner. I believe old Marc Valentín Shop is not far from there.
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GREAT!
Thanks.
Do u know the right place to find? (address and so on...)
I'nd like to catch him bu the fishes he takes! :D
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I've a peargun fo the famous VELENTIN!!!! It's a great speargun!
Is it right the address reported below? (Sorry Administrator, probably I shouldn't post addresses but I think you will understand...).
MARC VALENTIN
Edif. Suertes del Mar - Carretera Les Rotes - 54 D
C.P. 03700 DENIA (ALICANTE) SPAIN
Teléfono/Fax: 965 78 79 45
eMail: info@marcvalentin.com
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Ciao,
io sono stato agli uffici del compartimento agricolo dove c'e' la sede per le licenze di pesca a Gerona, ero a Cadaques di conseguenza era la localita' piu' vicina. Allora se vuoi la licenza spagnola devi andare da un medico di medicina sportiva, avere le foto, fare la domanda che si compra dal tabaccaio e altro ancora, altrimenti e' valida la licenza fipsas , siccome non mi favo ho rotto talmente tanto i coglioni che la signora gentilissima ha telefonato 2 volte a madrid e tre a barcellona perche' volevo essere sicuro di non avere rogne, alla fine mi ha dato la sicurezza della validita' della licenza. io comunque ho in tasca il nome e il telefonodel responsabile di Madrid....
La licenza fipsas costa 25 euro e non una cinquantina come ti chiedono perche' e' relativa alle attivita' subacqee ed hai la copertura assicurativa
ciao
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Jo...er, y yo que no lo pillo ni con el traductor de Google.... porca meseria..... ??? ??? esta claro, ya me lo decia mi padre... estudia un idioma... y yo solo con mi gallego.... ;D ;D
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Jo...er, y yo que no lo pillo ni con el traductor de Google.... porca meseria..... ??? ??? esta claro, ya me lo decia mi padre... estudia un idioma... y yo solo con mi gallego.... ;D ;D
hombre, no te preocupe tienes mucho tiempo todavia por aprender un idioma ;)